I think this video is legit, we’ve been holding off on posting anything, would love your thoughts on what you guys think. Here’s what i’m loving:
– headphone jack at the bottom
– new connection port
– looks like we have less glass on the back
– larger screen, slimmer body
which brings up questions…
– will the headphone jack be in the way?
– what do we do with the 5 or more $20 iPhone cords we have?
– will it feel less like a precious possession? 😉
– will this make it less durable than it already is?
The iPod Nanos have the headphone jack at the bottom. I don’t like that idea on the phone. It seems like it’s going to be awkwardly sticking into your palm if you are using it one handed and touching with your thumb.
Larger screen is nice, as long as it isn’t a horrible detriment to battery life.
Less glass on the back is good. I think it was a bad idea to start with. I think it will be more durable this way.
Hopefully the antenna issue is fixed and the engineers were actually listened to this time.
Less precious? I dunno, depends on price but at the end of the day it’s a phone, it doesn’t define your identity as a person.
Personally, I’m looking at moving to a Windows Phone this fall when the new Nokias and Samsungs are shipping with Windows Phone 8. Something fresh and new and I really like the simple and clean interface. I don’t know what Apple’s obsession is lately with replicating old fashioned physical items and elements. It gets in the way and is totally different approach when you compare it to Apple’s hardware design. The Windows Phone interface looks like something Jonny Ive would have done.
Why did you spend $20 on iPhone cords?
i’m curious why you like the headphones jack on the bottom of the device, jakub? initially, that strikes me as an odd design move.
@CHRIS to waste money
@CARLOS because when I pull my phone out of my pocket it makes the most sense PLUS when you attach the phone to a car mount its less obstructing and adds less wear to the wires
The only thing I’m skeptical on is the design line beneath the lens on the back. Yes it’s a detail, but I feel like it needs breathing room or a margin, something.
I think the iPhone 4 was already the perfect size so I’m not looking forward to a longer phone even if for a wider screen.
The headphone jack is welcome for me. It’s a small thing – I put my phone into my pocket top side down so it’s easier to pull out and answer or use. Having the headphone on the top meant keeping it in my pocket top side up which made for slightly clumsy handling to get it the right direction after pulling it out of the pants pocket.
I’m not a fan of bigger. It’s plenty big enough. I don’t think I’ll be a fan of the plug at the bottom. I think they are really trying hard for this one to be “different,” but they should have made it better.
Hopefully it’s more durable. My home button is giving out after 2 years. It seems a little crazy for something so expensive and fairly new.
I’m a fan of the slimmer ratio. Here’s what i have to offer. http://i.imgur.com/qUyj3.png
I was hoping for a little more of a design change. I don’t like cases on my iphone, it takes away from the product so durability is huge, we’ll find out shortly. They better sell adapters for the new port and not charge more than $10.
Desi I agree don’t really care for bigger. Also, I had the home button go out on my 4 and they replaced it free of charge.
I agree with TIM, if i’m paying more than $10 for an extra wire i’m gonna flip
The most likely reason for big screens on smart phones is to allow for a bigger battery. LTE uses a lot more power than 3G so it requires a bigger battery—and since manufactures are unwilling to make thicker phones, the only room for growth is the hight and width. All LTE Android phones have big screens and now the iPhone 5—which will most likely be LTE—has a bigger screen. Personally, I like the screen the way it is, but I’d rather the phone get a little taller than give up any precious battery life.
As for the headphone jack, all the iPods have it on the bottom, so it’s not surprising, but I’d like to hear apples reasoning behind it. I don’t get putting it in your pocket upside down because, that way, you can’t mute it or ignore a call without taking it out of your pocket.
I held a new Google phone and wished my iPhone was a bit bigger after that
not really digging the back too much. why a combo of materials now? just make it metal to match the imacs and macbooks.
the jack on the bottom has it’s plusses and minus i guess. definitely makes sense for a car jack but will it be weird on new peripheral speakers?
new connector makes me happy because i put the connector in the wrong way 100% of the time even though it is a 50/50 shot. but i am not psyched about buying all new cables and plugs.
Call me when they get rid of the home button.
In response to what DAN mentioned in the first comment:
“I don’t know what Apple’s obsession is lately with replicating old fashioned physical items and elements. It gets in the way and is totally different approach when you compare it to Apple’s hardware design. The Windows Phone interface looks like something Jonny Ive would have done.”
I think Apple is doing this to bring a warm contrast to the otherwise cold, clean and minimalist physical design of their products. It also makes good sense from a business perspective I think. That way, they can embrace a larger audience. Personally though, I’d LOVE to have really minimalist icons and simple color schemes. If Apple made that though, they would scare of a LOT of customers because they would appear too cold and clinical with no feelings what so ever.
I saw a B&O ad in a magazine once for one of their TVs. A black/silver monolith hovering on the wall in a “designers home”. Concrete, frosted glass, desaturated colors. The contrast in that case, was a bowl of fruit on a low wooden table. Surely placed there, to contrast the otherwise cold (yet totally awesome) design 🙂
Well, just my two-cents on that!
Not overly excited about this. Headphone at the bottom doesn’t make too much difference to me. I use an FM transmitter mount in the car so no cable. It will reorient itself sitting on the treadmill at the gym so no biggie there.
“I don’t know what Apple’s obsession is lately with replicating old fashioned physical items and elements. It gets in the way and is totally different approach when you compare it to Apple’s hardware design. The Windows Phone interface looks like something Jonny Ive would have done.”
As for the above, jailbreaking is so easy now and really opens up your phone for customization. There
are plenty of clean minimalist themes out there to choose from. My iPhone is decked out in a very cool and complete Dieter Rams/Braun theme right
now; People are always commenting on it.
If this phone comes out, then Apple will be infringing on patents. This article made my day especially after all that with Samsung 🙂
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/09/goophone-apple-iphone/
I have the Samsung Galaxy S3 on Verizon and the headphone jack is on the bottom. It doesn’t get in the way because when I’m listening to music with headphones I’m usually at a desk where the bottom of the phone is near me. If I’m running with it, it’s on my arm and not a big deal there either. I guess it just depends on how you use it most..
Have you guys seen the new Nokia Lumia 920 which was presented earlier today? Seems absolutely amazing, especially the camera.
I’m just not convinced, I don’t think it’s the phone that’s the problem, I think it’s the whole package. I have to agree with Dan and say Apple’s IOS is really feeling dated, especially besides the the new Nokia Lumia and Windows 8.
It’s starting to feel like the IOS is aimed at the lowest common denominator and their UI basically hasn’t changed since 2007. Our understanding of the technology has matured since then but aren’t moving forward.
The Lumia seems more crafted, innovative, fun and sits better as an example of design. I’m not saying it’s perfect – Apples phone have an air of confidence and luxury quality that the lumia seems to be missing. That said I’m starting to think about moving away from Apple (I hate this thought) for the first time in years.
All I hope is that Apple come out with something mind blowing next week but I’m just not holding my breath.
I’m sure most have seen this before but the clear app just shows the potential of the iphone http://www.realmacsoftware.com/clear/
I love the idea of the headphone jack on the bottom — having ports (power/speakers on the bottom, phones on the top) makes it difficult to orient in my pocket to make sure everything stays clean. Can’t count the number of iPhones I’ve had to make up BS excuses to get Apple to replace, just because the speaker screens got clogged or something got into the headphone jack. With all the openings on the same edge, I can always keep that end up in my pocket to avoid lint finding it’s way in, rather than constantly worrying that no matter what I do, it’s still getting clogged.
And yes, I do regularly do my laundry. 🙂
I’m happy with the changes, curious to see what they’re going to do about all the devices that exist for the 30-pin connector (clock/radios, docks, etc) — there really isn’t an elegant way that I can see to make all that stuff work. If they don’t, they’re going to piss off a LOT of hotel owners who spent gobs of money outfitting each room in their buildings with alarm clock docks or anybody who’s done a clean install in a car or a home stereo, to name just a few.
Excited for the 12th, hope they make the choice easy for us with some new killer feature that we can’t live without.
I really like the new screen size and ratio. I have always felt that 16:9 or near that is the right size for a phone screen. I am happy that it is not increasing in width at all. I do love the steel and glass finishes of the current and upcoming design. However the rear camera does seem to be a little too close to the metal case. It is the right distance from the corner but not the metal underneath.
I think a solid metal back would be nicer and cleaner, however I am not sure how that would work for the antennas. What I do like is that Apple many times uses the function=form approach. That appears to be the reason for the center metal panel vs. the glass ends.
I like the idea of all the openings being on the bottom. I love the new, small dock connector. Apple has used the 30 pinner for 11 years, it is time to move forward.
I like some of the skeuomorphic design Apple is using. It is like having nice walnut wood connected to a glass and steel frame. Warm comfort with clean design. I especially like the reel-to-reel design of the podcast app.
I am excited for the 12th and to hold the thing in my hand.
peace.
Longer but not wider = lame
Why longer when we mostly use our iPhone is Landscape. Still doesn’t make tryping emails or texting in landscape any easier or better. The argument for taller is that we can watch movies in full-screen res now. Big deal.
LAME
i’m gonna say the headphone thing is great. i put my phone in my pocket topside down becuz a) there’s god knows what collected at the bottom of my pockets, lint, pubes, paper bits, etc and i don’t feel like gunking up my dock, b) it just feels more natural putting it in that way.
my gripe with the 4 and on is the lack of curves. i just don’t like how square it is, give it subtle curves AND make a screen that’s edge to edge. i’m not an engineer so maybe this isn’t feasbile at this pt, but i am amazed nobody has really done this on a mass scale yet, either on smart phones OR laptops/desktop monitors.
“We” mostly use our iPhone in landscape? I’m not sure that’s the case. Personally I hold/use mine portrait style 90% of the time.
Taller but not wider makes sense for adding an extra row of app icons, without the icons having to be re-sized across the board. If you made it wider but not wide enough for an additional column, you’d be forcing everyone to recreate their icons.
I LOVE the audio jack on the bottom. The top jack has been annoying to me since I first got this phone nearly 2 years ago. When walking and listening to music, it makes sense to have the phone in my pocket upside down so I don’t have to flip it around when I take it out. That applies to both pants or a jacket pocket where it will sit horizontally. When I’m at my desk at work, the phone sits facing me and a bottom plug also makes more sense. In a car, I don’t think it will affect me, but for those with docks sticking out of their dashes, I imagine a bottom jack will be better as well.
All in all, a bit disappointed with the new design and lack of real change in the OS interface design. I’m also really liking the Windows phone UI and wish Apple would progress a bit in that department.
I like this post/video much better for comparing the physical size and feel of the new model:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/2/3286722/iphone-5-mockup-ifa-2012-video
Definitely love the bigger screen especially since it’s not that much taller overall, and about 1/5th thinner. Maybe it will even be less weight? Headphone jack on the bottom makes sense to me too, so you have all the cords out of the same side when charging in the car and what not. Plus it creates another safeguard for a slippery phone when holding it.
We always obsess over the hardware for good reason, but I’m really looking forward to iOS 6 and its features. As usual they’ll have some surprises in for us. The possibility of on-screen fingerprint or even waterproof tech is super cool.
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You’re loving the replacement of a input connector that has been around for ages, which will make a lot of equipment people have already bought for their old iPhones obsolete?
Uh, okay…
Yes, I do think it is a good thing to finally change the dock connector. Apple has consistently moved forward in their design in i/o choices to make what they create more inline with their vision. With the attitude of having to keep things the same because many people have already invested in it we would still be listening to cassette tapes and have no digital projection systems. Technology is moving forward. The new connection leaves a smaller whole in the product, gets rid of obsolete pins, will use smaller cables ends and ultimately use let materials. I am loving that.
and it looks cool 😉
The cassette tape analogy really only goes so far. Cassettes and cassette decks are media/components. It is I/Os that are the issue here and, with interface technology, consistency and universality has been the name of the game for a very long time. Take the venerable RCA connection; It has been a staple on audio components since the 1940’s and still appears as the main I/O on most audio and video devices (along side HDMI). It still cheeses me off that most midi controllers are coming out with USB only and no standard MIDI din connection.
I think one aspect you guys forgot to mention is that the native iso of the iphone 5 is iso 50, compared to iso 64 of the iphone 4s.
Yeah, a valid point, I suppose. My caocainnl argument against is “10,000 years”. Humankind has managed to deal without them for 10,000 years, so my default position is that we don’t really need them that much. That goes for a lot of things, not just cell phones, of course. I certainly don’t have any qualms about carrying one where there’s a need, but if there’s not